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WEBFI-TECH-Is this Elon Musk’s new secret plan? (Ep. 515)



Why focus on the Tesla Optimus humanoid robot when Tesla is still just getting started with EVs, FSD, Robotaxi and more?

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30 Comments

  • KC on January 28, 2022

    I kinda disagree cuz I believe we can't rely on one leader. History shows that most nations failed when that special leader passed on. We need some kind of written constitution or algorithm to build on. Maybe something like the Asimov's three laws…. 😂

  • Duke Ung on January 28, 2022

    No matter what we will have evil AI robots… Military will turn everything into a weapon. Where there is an Optimus Prime… There are Decepticons

  • John D'Amico on January 28, 2022

    Silicon Valley (and whatever the equivalent in China is) has ZERO moral compass so GO ELON!

  • Charles Lewis on January 28, 2022

    "Many big tech companies just don't have the best moral compass". No Sh__ Sherlock! Corporations are psychopathic by their very nature -hence here we are in the midst of the sixth mass extinction in the planets history. Jeff Bozos and Amazon considers employees lazy, pays low wages especially to delivery people, manipulates and intimidate with fear, and fires people by text. Musk makes demands on his employees, but also empowers them to be successful and pays them well, offering stock options. Now Tesla is working on robots to do dirty, degrading, boring, tedious, and dangerous jobs. At the same time, I worry that if a robot can do work at the same level as a human, one robot can easily replace four human jobs, as it will work 24/7 other than recharging time. Even if $100K, that means it will pay for itself in less than a year. I fully expect the subprimes to be faster and more clever than most workers. How will people make a living?

  • Oscar Cuzzani on January 28, 2022

    Great video again!
    Elon didn’t disclose all that he had in mind. Time constraints…
    He’s aware of something new that he didn’t disclose yet.
    I’m not very patient. If you are not either, call him for a discussion!
    You’re good at asking!

  • spacep0d on January 28, 2022

    Congrats on 200k subs!

  • spacep0d on January 28, 2022

    AGI isn't anything silly. It's a real potential threat that a lot of people don't take seriously enough. The dark side of AGI will sneak up on us if we're not ready for it.

  • Christian De Stoop on January 28, 2022

    Fascinating thoughts, thanks Dave. I agree with your unique perspective and I’ll be delighted to see Tesla be years ahead in humanoid bots like it is with EVs. BUT I fail to see how this fits with Tesla’s mission statement (accelerate our transition to sustainable energy). Surely we’ve haven’t won this battle yet?

  • T Thomas on January 28, 2022

    Guys like Elon, Steve Jobs, Bezos have the mindset to think about what lies ahead decades/generations of the present. They have a gift to see the future and push their companies innovation as result.

  • RJ on January 28, 2022

    Tesla won’t be able to work with the government because they will be backing General Morons who are the puppets of the United Artificialintelligence Workers even though GM has managed to produced only one robot albeit a pretty stupid one, the M-Barra. Despite this General Morons will claim that they are leading AI, and that matters.

  • Jg Rsb on January 28, 2022

    I hope regular people can afford a humanoid robot and EVs. I would like an electric vehicle and charged from solar panels but these are out of my price range. The humanoid robot will only be useful to society if everyone can afford one. If it turns out only all the rich buy robots and make virtual plantations of robot slaves that drive everyone out of work that would be bad. But if everyone can afford 1-3 robots and all our chores and cleaning, laundry, etc can be done by robots and they can garden and build an addition to your house that would truly benefit humanity.

  • Jg Rsb on January 28, 2022

    How can we assume Tesla will be the first to AI bota? Seems China views AI as one of the core technologies they are focusing on and are spending far more on it than the US.

  • Dayanand Shanbhag on January 28, 2022

    I disagree that Big Tech companies have a bad moral compass. Moral compass is mostly dictated by the laws of the land. Chinese laws don't care about individual liberties and therefore the companies don't care either. Most Big Tech simply follow the law of the land as they churn profits. Tesla is no different. If it had a high moral compass then it would not open show rooms in Xinyang. AGI is going to render millions of workers unemployed long before the AI Bots take over the world. Any innovation from Tesla Bots will be copied over by other countries with questionable ethics. Even if we assume Tesla has high moral compass, its copy cats won't be limited by it. So the dooms day can't be avoided. But I do agree that Tesla Bot has a greater business potential than cars. But I don't buy the whole morality and save the world kinda thing. It just sounds phony.

  • danomitepoop on January 28, 2022

    Elon want his robots to be ready to set up colonies by the time he's ready to send rockets to Mars.

  • Deep  on January 28, 2022

    AI robots are cool and needed/needs a separate presentation session. In Q4 earnings we wanted to hear about record deliveries and the plan to record another one in 2022. As far as evil robots, I agree with you and they are already delivered by giant tech companies on the internet that we could not see. Once you like Elon it's very difficult to dislike him, because he cares so much about humanity … and he knows how to make cool products and fund his projects. Yeah, plus he is not running for any election, so he hangs out with cool people :-), like sitting on the track with co-workers while managing difficult and critical operations.

  • chio saephanh on January 29, 2022

    Didn't Google AI was speaking to another AI in a language they couldn't understand and they had to shut it down?

  • Jonathon Simon on January 29, 2022

    I dont think this (the Evil competitor theory) is where Elon is going with the Robots at this point. Robot take over is so far away from present tech. Can't even get a specific AI like the FSD to work, let alone a generalized self-aware AI. Instead I suspect the Tesla Robots play into Elon's Mars colonization interest. Robots can set things up before humans arrive on the hostile red planet. Elon can initially build expensive bots for those missions, then bring the cost down (just like his EV model), so that eventually (in our life time) we can have a house robot to do the laundry and wash the car, as well as robots to perform various physically intensive yet repetitive business tasks, like running warehouses. And also, its been predicted since at least the 70s, that economies may collapse as the the baby-boomer generations around the world retire. Equally, China's 1 child policy has set them up for a potential labor collapse in the not too distant future. If not for the efficiencies of computers, the world would already be in the middle of economic collapse. These bots could solve part of that (physical) labor problem, where computers in fixed chasis can't.

  • Fishphage on January 29, 2022

    What makes you think that Tesla will not be the maker of evil AI robots? The argument against FB and Google is equally applicable to Tesla. There are talks in academia about the dangers of making AI war machines and the technology falling into the wrong hands. However, it is tough to say whose hands are wrong and whose are right. While the future is very exciting, it is equally scary. I am a Tesla shareholder.

  • Jan Bruun Andersen on January 29, 2022

    The best comment about this robot thing that I saw, was in a live stream on Hit That Bid. Someone wrote: "It should be called Optimus Grimes". I thought it was hilarious.

  • David Denley on January 29, 2022

    Hi Dave…thins is my take on things..,
    Tesla cars are money spinners so Tesla will continue making them but at present their order books are full and Tesla would be better served making the cars that have been ordered.
    The Tesla Robot, you could say that a lot of the Robotic knowledge has already been done, it was done years ago and is still evolving. Every Tesla built any especially the FSD will
    Be part of the Robots knowledge.
    Space X are wanting to land on Mars in a few years time and although the Rocket is well on it's was to be finalised, this isn't exactly the real problem. That honour hours to who will be on it??? One of the problems is Life Support and keeping people fit on board, another problem is if the ship lands successfully, the people on board will affectively gone on a one way trip and all they have in living in a tin can.
    It would be a far better idea to have that Rocket to Mars manned, ideally with autonomous Robots! If they land successfully they could start building Human Habitats giving those on future flights somewhere to Live!
    The day when Tesla Robots become fully Autonomous and can walk and move there arms like a human does and become available will be the day that life as we know it will end! This will
    Be a good thing though for we are short of many skills as a society. What we need are Robots with the skills of:
    Plumbers, Engineers, Surgeons, Carers, Policemen, Waiters and even Dog Walkers. I just hope that the Robots aren't all
    Made to
    Look like Men, I would personally prefer on to look like a Woman 🙂
    One last point is this, there are many lonely people who really would like a Carer/Friend Robot, me too ok!

  • Dan Frederiksen on January 29, 2022

    There is no doubt about the recursive potential of AI however there is reasonable doubt it will put out for fiscal 2022. Without being mocking, I don't think Karpathy et al has the kung fu to pull off an effective android in 20 years let alone by this afternoon. And at current progression their grasp doesn't seem firm enough to pull off FSD by the end of the year either. Not even fair weather modestly geofenced level 4 operation. Even if we say I have a real knack for progressing AI, 10x faster than them, it would be at least a full year for commercial success.
    But it's to Elon's credit to push into domains where others might not bother, even if singular pursuit of an android is not going to succeed with their current crew.

  • Nantachit Kitiyakara on January 29, 2022

    fucking love you man!!!!!!

  • Frank Woodman Jr on January 29, 2022

    Elon wasn't just positive he sounded CERTAIN about FSD and he's seldom wrong when he's certain of something.

  • Vincent van den Berg on January 29, 2022

    Tesla is finding it's path to make fsd work ever better. All new knowledge and skills obtained in the process of building fsd software, provide a perfect base for building a humanoid robot. Optimus is just Tesla's logical follow-up project. It needs a visionary like Elon Musk to see the the opportunity and need for Optimus and therefore it's inevitable success. From Elon's perspective Optimus wouldn't only be of great use on Earth, but also the Moon, Mars and celestial bodies beyond. Think of a fleet of SpaceX starships going to Mars with an army of Optimus bots to help build and sustain a human colony on Mars … It's going to be insanely incredible scifi put to reality!

  • shehbazinator on January 29, 2022

    Insanely interesting video!

  • steve cook on January 29, 2022

    Dave, maybe the toothpaste is out of the tube. Elon cannot run in five directions ALL the time. Get a PR person, place people in charge of each facet.. or he will implode… The Aviator movie, story of Howard Hughes…

  • Simple Ton on January 29, 2022

    Just try this…imagine Optimus sitting in the drivers seat of a Car. Sure it’s doable. Now imagine Optimus feeding a CNC machine. Except USING two arms and mobility. Or stacking boxes at supermarket. It just gets better over time next thing they are cooking in your kitchen. Does it have to be humanoid..well yeah it would be easy for ppl to teach it tasks because actions are similar.

  • Pascal S. on January 30, 2022

    It's not just a potential evil AI that is at stake here; as importantly, it's the demographic time bomb. For instance, by 2050, in Europe we will have 30 million fewer people of working age than in 2020.

  • Forever Great full on February 1, 2022

    BUY TESLA

  • Neal Tauss on April 26, 2022

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